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2026-05-05- Q & A- Living Privately

Kelby Smith Season 8 Episode 105

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All right, no background noise. Great. Thank you very much, Francine. Um, and we don't have a lot of people on because I didn't post this. I wasn't sure if I was going to be able to do the live QA tonight. Coming to you live from Victoria, British Columbia. Yes, I'm in a different country right now in Canada on a working retreat with my spouse, and I'm excited. This is predominantly a white, retired, beautiful neighborhood country, if you will. It's an island. Um, about a three-hour ferry ride from Washington, Seattle, Washington, and I am in a blue sky, which is absolutely not normal. Um, it's getting normal for this time of year for this area, but amazing, beautiful water, beautiful sky, 62 to 70 degrees, perfect weather. You got to wear a light chill jacket. Um, a couple of differences I notice is there's the food quality is not as good. We got a bunch of food coming, uh being delivered. We're in a timeshare kind of a thing. So we want to be able to take care of our own food, our own stuff instead of eating out all the time. So I'm a little bit excited right now. Um, we're gonna be uh looking at the neighborhood now. Um I'm gonna tell you some conspiracy stuff. But it's not conspiracy because I'm just gonna tell you facts. I'm gonna do a video on this. There's a lot of stuff in the neighborhood as a discussion point about um uh a mud flood, um, a different story about America than we originally have been told, meaning uh we founded a lot of these buildings that were already here. And these buildings are much, much older and they come from a different empire before us. Those are kind of the stories like San Francisco was already here, like the major buildings, the Capitol buildings, they were already here. Uh, same with Idaho, same with you know, um Chicago, Florida, Washington, DC, all these buildings were already here, and we founded them and we had to dig them out. I've seen pictures of the Capitol building and the White House where there's another 20 feet underneath. Um, like it was covered up andor built uh covered by mud and/or some kind of thing. And that's the story. I don't know whether what's the truth or not, but I can't tell you there's a lot of truth to it because um, whatever it may be, it looks like the buildings a long time ago all all of a sudden started 20 feet under the ground, and it's not a basement because they have windows, and so it doesn't make sense, you know. You don't put a window in a basement. Uh, I guess some you do, but it'd be across the top kind of a thing, so you can see up on the street, and you build like a little archway in, so you get some fresh light into the basement. I have seen some of those, but here's the conspiracy. I'm in Victoria, British Columbia. I'm in and looking at this Capitol building, it's got green copper all over it, so it's kind of got the uh musty look to it. It's been, you know, doing that natural uh oxidation look, and it's beautiful. Um, but it looks like it's uh could be 100, 150 years old. And then you go into um some of the buildings around here and you look at the pictures of old time 1898, 1884. Like there is this bank, and I took this whole video on this. If this bank is established in 1884, this bank is huge, huge, and it's got even show the pictures, and I've got it all captured on video. This bank's got pictures showing 20 tellers and like lined up all the way down and um ready for business, kind of a thing. And you have a picture right next to it, and it's got the picture of all of Victoria, and it looks like it's like got 100,000 people, it's got all these huge buildings, 20 foot tall, 20-foot-tall buildings back in the day, like early, early, like beginning 1900s. Big buildings, and I'm thinking to myself, hmm. Okay, and I Google how many people were in Victoria, British Columbia in 1884. 13,000. So I'm I'm trying to find out uh from my Google is responding on my phone. Turn my Google off. Anyway, you can't do it. Um, so I start thinking to myself, asked the same thing of Google again regarding 1901, 1913, and it's going up very slowly, like 18,000, 22,000, 28,000. But you're looking at a town of 130,000, 40,000, quarter million, like it's a big town back in the day, and all you got to do is look at the pictures and look at the backgrounds and look at all the homes on the mountains, and you can literally see something that is very conspiratorial. Like, why is Google at a minimum showing 13,000 people in 1884 for Victoria, British Columbia, when clearly the bank is geared up for a hundred thousand people? You know what I mean? Like 13,000 people, you would think maybe uh the majority of them worked with their hands. Like these buildings that were around here, the Capitol building that is massive, that was built in the late 1800s, looks like it would have taken a couple thousand minimum people, like everybody in the town was working on this building. Doesn't make sense. Doesn't make sense at all. I don't understand it, and I think that somebody needs to explain it to me just to help me out. Um yeah, we're not showing the pick right now. Uh, but everybody can hear me okay, everything's good. How's it how's the stream? Are we live? Make sure we're live on YouTube. Okay, yeah, we're live on YouTube. All right, so I'm gonna do my best tonight to get through the QA and I'm gonna ask um people, just make sure you post your questions directly into the question and answer forum here on the QA. I'm gonna be here uh for however long it takes. Um, I don't have access to my questions, my outlook crash, and the only way to bring up my outlook again is to um restart the computer. I can't restart the computer in the middle of a live stream. So if you've sent in questions through the queue with Alex or our back office team, repost those questions here, please. Go to your ticket that you're having an issue with maybe getting an understanding or getting getting an answer, bring it over here right now, post it to the QA, please, and we'll get it addressed. So I'm gonna be um I'm gonna be here for the next couple days. I'm excited about it. I'm gonna be touring uh one of the most breathtaking gardens. I love this stuff because you get to see the nature of God throughout the creation, and it's kind of a neat thing. There's a 55-acre garden that is supposed to be absolutely beautiful. Um, babe, can you shut that door?

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And um, this garden is uh supposed to be like the number one garden in what this entire city is known for. This island is about 460 kilometers all the way across. Like it takes eight hours to get from one side of the island to the next. It's kind of like from Los Angeles to uh Phoenix, Arizona, or even a little bit further um to long, to big space, big island. Uh the design of the island from a standpoint of how it came about in um uh uh the the culture of the Indians that were here before, um, or whatever that culture was that that was here before, um, there's a lot of recognition to that culture. A lot of uh things that they point out show a heritage um leading back to the culture of the Indians that were here. Um, and it's just a beautiful country. I can't believe how pretty this country is. Um, I've been asking a lot of questions about the people, what happened here through COVID, and they just said it was slammed shut, it was quiet. There are cops on every street, like three, four cops on every street. Um, you drive down a street, you pass a cop, guaranteed almost. And there's cops almost in every large motel uh parking lot. It's kind of eerie, like the ratio is extreme. I don't necessarily understand that, but they did say there was a cop convention going on and that it was not normally like this. And so I'm inquiring about the cop convention and what's going on. And generally, they do conventions when they're uh getting ready to plan the next uh kind of big thing. So I want to, I'm not trying to scare anybody, but there's a lot of information out there about a pandemic called an energy pandemic that we need to be considering and whatever that means. Um, obviously, our gas prices have doubled in the last whatever months because supposedly somehow uh gasoline that's in the Strait of Hermes or whatever the name is, uh has to do with our direct gas price here. And I have no idea why. Um I get it would be that way maybe in a year by the time the gas actually got here, didn't wasn't able to get here, but it shouldn't be able to affect the gas price today because we have reserves and we have you know the time that it takes for something to get from the Middle East to over here, and we don't even know if that's blocking um the gas that's coming in. But there's a lot of issues that I have with a lot of the things that are going on in the world, just like I'm sure everybody else does. Um, but I want you guys to consider if you already haven't, um or you're not, let's say you're a VIP member, because we got a lot of VIP members, but we got basically um about a five to ten percent ratio confirmed coming to the Q uh coming to the VIP inspirational call. And I want to share something with you guys because I'm gonna start posting portions of the calls to YouTube. Um, my goal is to get people to an understanding of their freedom, not just physical freedom. We have a physical freedom here at His Advocates that is unlike anybody in the face of the world, it has. Um, and shout out to uh um Doug, just ask your questions right there. I'll find them. Okay. Um, ask your questions where he just posted it. I'll I'll find it. It pops up on my computer too, so we're good to go. Um but shout out to uh my my my New York taxi driver um buddy who listens to all of these. Uh I know he is going through a lot, and I just want to tell him stay on your dreams. Um I know you're going through a lot if you need to, and I told you when I get back, uh I'll take care of you on a on a membership and all the stuff it takes to do the LPP. But um, I definitely want you uh as one of the people um who understands freedom because you come from Hungaria, um, I want you to understand how much it means to me that you get it, and that you don't want to live in a communist nation like you came from. And your your parents and grandparents fought to be free. And uh people here are soft and they don't necessarily understand what the fighting was about, and they don't understand necessarily, you know, um why we had to go through what we had to go through. And I want to just state even though we don't think we know the complete truth about our history, it doesn't really matter, does it? Because if there's a general consensus that makes an exception for you being able to make a claim of being out of the jurisdiction of the United States and they accept it, it's absolute. See, what we do from a physical freedom standpoint is we do an offer and it's the passport as a state citizen. Not doing a re you know, we're not trying to say we're not a United States citizen from a standpoint of um I'm blanking on the words because I don't do it, uh where they revoke their U.S. citizenship, um, I'm blanking on the name of that. We don't do that. Um, we are only affirming our citizenship to the state and to the United States of America. We're not affirming allegiance and we're not affirming U.S. citizenship, but we are not negating who we are as a citizen of the United States of America. So when you do the offer as a passport where your application clearly says I'm not a U.S. citizen, I'm a citizen of the United States of America. And my book, The What Does It Mean to Be an American, which you can get for free on hisadvocates.org, it clearly shows you the dual citizenship nature in the Supreme Court of the United States of America, showing you United States is a federal citizenship and showing you that it is an employment ship, and that a state citizenship is the state of California, state of Arizona. It's not a um, if you will, the uh a um whatchamacallit, uh it's it's not anything outside of the United States of America, but it is outside of the United States. The United States is exclusive to the District of Columbia, and a lot of people just don't really realize who they are and what they are and what we have. We have this physical freedom, but what I'm seeing, and I said I'm seeing it here for Canadians every second I'm walking down the street. They they don't know who they are as free men or women because they are one step from a communist country. One step. They're so close to being completely locked up and locked down, just like they're gonna try to do to the majority of the world this next time. Kudos to the United Kingdom fighting right now. Love it. They're the aspect that the people that are oppressing them, the officers that are oppressing the people with unrighteous laws and unfounded laws, just mandates. They're not even laws. That's what they do, they just make these mandates, and that's what they did in California for and then in every state. There was nothing that was passed that was an order that they could do, they could only do a mandate, and that is a choice by definition. It is not something that you have to do because the law does not require it. And I told even my spouse, I said when all these mandates come down, you watch the people that fight them are going to win all the way across the board, and they did. Okay, they lost from a standpoint, many people lost businesses, but that's because they shut down. The people that stayed open and fought and did not pay the fines and did not pay the fines, stayed open and won big. As a matter of fact, many people won money, and that's all stuff that's really kept under the under the cover because they don't want people to know that standing up is a choice. Standing up is an absolute, especially when it's a mandate and not a right or not a law. Um, but I'm saying this because going back to the VIP membership and going back to what we are doing uh for the VIP membership, is I am dealing with expressly coming after what does it mean to be an American? We've done it formally from the law standpoint, and we're doing it formally from the legal and lawful standpoint as jurisdiction and with our paperwork. But what I'm seeing lacking in this nation, and I'm hoping this catches fire, is what our God gave us in sovereignty over the world in Genesis 1.6. People don't understand it. People don't understand Romans 13, people don't understand 2 Peter 2.13. People do not understand who they are when it comes to taxes, when it comes to government, when it comes to any of this stuff. And so I am exclusively going after the VIP members who are supporting his advocates, and I am gonna be doing a guarantee that it's gonna be bring you a satisfaction, uh, a change in your life, and I'm gonna encourage you to go and sign up and be a VIP member. Go all the way back to January 2nd and start listening forward. What does it mean to be emotionally free? What does it mean to be physically free? We all get it. But the fears that come with that, what does it mean to be free of fear? How do you do that? The mechanical steps of what you have to do to be free of fear, what you have to do to be free in your emotional, physical, spiritual state. Then and only then can you have the kingship of being a true child of God being passed through from the heavenly to you, which is what we're required to be. It's not that is an absolute, that's what God's words expressed for us. This is what he wants for us. And I do understand that people will take a different definition for things out of the word of God for themselves, but I'm very good at explaining to people why they think what they think and why it may be wrong, because I can take the same scripture that somebody reads and I can flip it over to the true intent of what the law for mankind has for man here in this nation and why we are the government and why we don't serve them, they serve us. It's those things that are very important for us to grab onto and get and wrap our minds around as to who we are in this nation. And if we can get enough people, and it doesn't take the whole nation, it might be a small click of a small group. If we can get enough people wrapped around who they are and how to take those steps, people that have no issue with being a leader, people that have no issue with making change in the world. God only needs one. He only needs one. Go and look at the word, look at what he did continually through one man. Period. I'm just saying. Not to discount women, women are super important. But I have seen low digits from a standpoint of a single man make massive change in the world. And it is my heart and my goal to be able to teach that to people so that people understand who they are. But if you only have the jurisdiction and you live in fear, well what if, well, what if, well, what if, well, what if? What if you never grow up to be a man? What if? Those are real challenges, those are real things, and you gotta deal with the past, you gotta deal with what you've been through, and you gotta accept who you are, and you gotta accept what God has for you. And there's a big thing there that we're doing with the VIP members, and I think we're making massive headway, and I really just want you to be a part of that. Go and join our VIP membership on hisadvocates.org. If you're not satisfied, I'll give you your money back. Period. Straight up. Go and join. Tell your family and friends about it. Go listen to a few of them uh of our recent VIP videos. Just grab onto it, understand what we're trying to do with the people, and then when you get it, go back to the beginning because there's a succession of training that everybody needs to have. And I think it's super super important that we all get our minds wrapped around what we are doing here in this nation truly and how we will be free. We've already won the battle. The question is, do you believe it? Or do you believe the narrative of every news station, of every social media account, of everything? See, things can happen in this world, things can change in this world, but it doesn't need to affect the way that you feel or live your life. And that is a major thing that we need to accept. There were some hard times about being able to go into stores and make purchases, but I still did it mask-free as a man. I still did it over and over. There were times where I was weak and I just wanted to do it and put on a full face mask and get in there. And and I had a another member rip me a new one, dude. I tell me I'm his leader, and no, do not cowtail. And I needed iron sharpening iron at that moment. It was the one moment in my life where I was just fed up. I felt beaten down, I felt discouraged. I felt like I just had to do it and get in because I wanted my stuff from Costco, you know, and I went through the whole thing with Costco, went through the membership. They're just willing to cancel the membership, it's not a big deal. But you can't get your group buys. There's no other stores that are really like that from the standpoint of what you're able to buy out here on the Pacific um coast side. But the bottom line is, guys, look, we're coming to another pandemic, and it's an energy pandemic, and I want to encourage you guys to know who you are. Hey Maddie, can you shut the door, please? And I want to encourage you guys to know who you are and to know how you can stand for us as a body of people, collectively, individually, whatever. But we've already won this battle, no matter what. And you gotta live that, you gotta feel that, you gotta breathe that, you gotta know that. And it takes us planning and it takes us as a community. And if we are self government and women, our community needs to stand. That doesn't mean we need to act violently, it doesn't mean we're domestic terrorists, it doesn't mean any of that. And that's that's the go to for terrorists. Do you notice that? That's the go-to for terrorists. You look at the way they're treating other other people across the the ocean with uh how they're dealing with uh young children, how they're dealing with infants, how they're dealing with women, uh calling them terrorists as they kill them and chop their heads off and mutilate them. Really? They're the terrorists? I don't think so. I think we have a problem in this world where the Bible calls it. What's uh good will be considered uh evil and what's evil will be considered good. Scripture in those days, we're in these days, I feel. And it's it's okay because I know who I am and I don't want to stress about it, I don't want to feel negative about it, but I want to bring everybody to the state of comfort that you know I know you know that you can have. And I want you to live in a state where there is no fear, and I want you to live in a state where you know who you are, and it's super important. So um I'm gonna go to the QA first and get those questions out. Um for people, first question is when opening up a bank account under the foundation and we donate all the money to that account. Can there be uh multiple checking accounts under the foundation account, or we can have a checking account outside of the foundation to transfer money into our individual names? Um, anonymous attendee. I don't uh I close my personal bank accounts, I don't put money through my personal name ever at all. I don't own anything. And uh anything that I uh from a trustee or an executive director or uh somebody who is a uh a servant um or a has stewardship um over all that belongs to the Elohim, uh I don't want to put money through a name that uh quite frankly um doesn't need to have any money come through it. I know that's a normal thought process. So your foundation should be the owner of all things and uh pay all your bills. And when you need to purchase food or anything or go to dinner, it doesn't matter. The foundation pays. And that's just the contract that you have, and there's nobody that can say anything different. There's no judge other than the king, the king of kings. And so understand that you're gonna treat that with respect. Um, I don't want to say you can't have multiple accounts under the foundation to do multiple things. It's really not a need to have multiple accounts. There may be a need for multiple foundations, but really not a need for multiple accounts. Um, I think every child should have uh the respect and responsibility of their own foundation. I think uh they need to understand how to inherit the rights to run the foundation that you've created. So they're all those are all things that you should be considering as well. But um money doesn't come from foundation to a corporation, or money doesn't come from a foundation to you as an individual. Money goes into the foundation, you can take the deduction or write off um that donation as you would to any other church or humanitarian project or what have you. Um, I don't talk about the tax benefits or the tax strategies on the personal side or on a corporate side. I'm just saying what I know the law says regarding a foundation. And there's no just because you're running the foundation doesn't mean you don't get the benefit of a tax deduction or a tax write-off because of it. And I'll tell you how to strategically file your tax returns or what forms or fields to fill out, as I haven't filed a tax return in 15 years, uh, and I don't ever intend to again, and I never will, uh, because I don't earn income at all. I have multiple different foundation accounts, I operate all of them appropriately to their individual, respective of what the foundation controls. I am a good steward, I am a good executive director, and uh I earn a God in all things. So I hope that helps. Uh Jesus' Lord says, got my passport finally. Yeah, baby. It's not a question, but congratulations. Um, I got rid of all my credit cards and bank accounts in my personal name. Yeah, baby. Uh, should I take uh my cell phone out of my name? Is that a contract with the United States government? It can be considered one. Um, I really, you know, it's really up to you. If they have a social, I would I just put it in the name of the foundation. Um, as a matter of fact, uh look at um whoever your provider is. If you got T-Mobile, we have an alternative that you can do T-Mobile with us. Um lower price, uh, you can put it in a foundation, and you don't need a social security number or anything to get approved. Um, most every phone is transferable. So if that's a question for you and you need help with that, let me know. Um next question. I asked a question a few weeks ago about my wife and how she should file, and you gave a lot of good information, but not exactly what I needed. I'm going into the private. She is not. I have filed the first paper to remove my signature from my marriage certificate. Did she file her signature on that paper with you? Question. When it goes through, or maybe even before it goes through, does she need to change her filing status? Um, married, okay. So even if it's a great question, actually, because a lot of people think they're no longer married. And it's you're just you're taking your portion, your belief of the legal tie and creating a new agreement. You're not getting rid of the marriage license, if you will. Like, for example, this is a common misnomer. The purpose of what we're doing with the marriage, three letters, first, both have to agree to dissolving that agreement or changing the agreement. Secondly, so you're both signing both all three of those letters, number one, number two. The only purpose of that is to show that if they were ever to try to come after your children, or if they were ever to try to come after, um, remember, there's a Supreme Court ruling that says uh all the property from that union belong to the state. So, in understanding that, why would I want the state to think for a second I'm in agreement? So the purpose of the administrative process is to show and prove unequivocally through an exhaustive administrative process, which means they consented, whether they do or they don't. They don't cancel necessarily the marriage license, even though we asked them to, um, because they control that. And so there is a thing in which they are out of honor. But the fact remains there would be a marriage license in still in case, but you now have something in the event that they were to come after your children, in the event that they were to come after you from a criminal contract standpoint, showing that you signed an application, that you are in fact a U.S. citizen or whatever it might be through that marriage license. That's why we want to make sure we're protecting all angles of indictment, not that you're going to be protected from murder, from rape, and all those things where you actually harmed an individual. That would come through an entirely different process of a grand jury. But the bottom line for you, I would consider the reason why we're doing this is to protect our children and to create a new agreement that they can't come after. And that's an important thing for us to understand. Um, so your wife doesn't, she's not going to say she's now divorced on uh tax file. She's gonna file married, soul, and separate. That's it. That's the only thing that's changing from a legal standpoint. Married, soul, and separate. Because married, your definition of married and her definition of married doesn't need to meet the IRS definition. As a matter of fact, you can asterisk the word married and define it on the bottom of the 1040 as a matrimony, holy matrimony. And now you are agreeing you're a common law, holy matrimony, and using the term marriage on the IRS application, sole and separate, because she doesn't want to file individual or divorced or any of those things, because it's not a fact, the truth. You never went through a divorce process, you never did any of those things. What you did was you came to a new agreement that you both agreed that you, because of fraud and the fact and that you didn't understand the complexity and the nature of what a license caused, that you were going to remove your signatures and you were going to do a notice of fault and a certificate of default. Now that creates an administrative, absolute court of record that they have defaulted because of acquiescence, period. And it actually is something that we end up putting into a common law court of record. Um uh that is super, super powerful at the end, which you all know about. But for you, um, just have her file, married soul and separate. Uh, should she not even say she's married anymore? Done well, she can say she's married all she wants, and just put that asterisk if it bothers you. Um just put down on the bottom holy matrimony, you know, because you still are before God, a a one. And the reality is when you do the certificate of marriage, that's being married. When you stand before God with a pastor, and that's holy matrimony. Even if you're not using the words, you're you're taking something between you and her and a pastor before God, and you're creating a covenant under God. So you still have, even if you defined it as marriage, then you still have holy matrimony. You're still conjoined as a common law husband and wife. Now, there's the public side license that shows you as married and where the state now controls the product of that union, which is why we want to dissolve that. I hope that answers it. Kelby, it's my third week now asking you to review the FOIA document. I submitted. I'm on a vacation. I did review it, and Alex and I have answered you. This is frustrating to me because I don't know why you're either not getting the answer. Yeah. You can be very disappointed all you want. I'll show you a history and understand something. What you were asking is not a part of the living in the private process logan. We're trying to support what you're doing. That's it. Um, so we can answer now or in two months from now if we decide to answer, and I'm being respectful when I'm saying this, but if we decide to answer, it's by the grace of God that you're getting an answer. Because what you're trying to do is pull your property out of a counter recorder, and I've never advertised that for anybody. I tell people how to do it and I support it as much as possible doing things like this, but you're being very specific with questions. And I have addressed them, and I did have another question for you, which I have not gotten back to yet. And it's because I've been busy and right now, currently I'm in Victoria, British Columbia on vacation addressing you. So just know that. Whatever we need to do, if you want to do a if you want to do a consultation and talk about it, that's fine. We can do that. But I'm gonna tell you right now, just get your property put into the title of what you're trying to do with the deed, and don't worry about the uh element of pulling it out of the county recorder until you have got your mind wrapped around enough of how to do that and and the steps that you exactly want to take. Now, is correct me if I'm wrong, is this the one that's in New York?

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Let me know.

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On next question, my job's legal counsel is refusing to allow me to use a WABEN. She's after researching in the United States Code and Regulations, the college, my job is not able to grant my request to utilize WABEN form in lieu of the W4 form. She stated if employees fail, just do W4 exempt, Belinda. I mean, we can put a letter together for you if you want and really challenge that and go after that because a WABN is a non-resident alien, and a state of the union citizen under IRS code would be considered a non-resident alien. So we can do a WABE and enforce the nature of that as a State of the Union citizen with all the Supreme Court rulings if you want to take that approach. Um and there's some pretty easy ways to get that done. Just note a couple of different cases, and then uh you can ask, uh you can run it down through AI and just have AI write the letter and run it through us, and we'll just tell you what we can get done or not get done on that. Okay. Um, it's not that big of a deal. Uh, I do know that your next step would be if you don't want to fight that, W4 exempt, and that's all. So but remember something. Belinda, these are people that are no different than Homeland Security or the FBI who've been trained at one specific area of knowledge. This is why I say an attorney is smart, maybe, in one area of law. This is why doctors are broken down. You have different styles and different types. So, same thing with this HR department. They've been trained in one way, and you can force the nature and force the WABEN because there's nothing else that fits a State of the Union citizen. What they're trying to do is take people that are free, non-taxpayers, and commit them to taxation. So it's either filing exempt on a W4 or stay the course and fight the WABEN. There's, I mean, there's some things. I I it's it's gonna be a week before I can even address it, but um use AI to the best of your ability, let it let it run through. I am gonna be meeting Alex tomorrow morning and I'll um try to get that addressed, but just see what you can get done with AI and just take my book, go grab a couple case sites. Those are all still active law today. There's different citizenships. How do you deal with a different citizenship, especially one that says our non-taxpayer, state citizens are non-taxpayers? Number one, number two, the iris code doesn't have a classification for a state citizen. The only one it does is as a non-resident alien. Now, what is a non-resident alien? It's a whole nother definable term that can go a hundred different directions, but that's the closest term that I can find for a state citizen under IRS code who's trying to comply with a form. So that's why I always say to people, just you're gonna have sometimes you're gonna have to force the nature of andor either do a really good job training an individual. They're not gonna get into any trouble by forcing a W A B E N onto the IRS. They're not. Um, they're not gonna be uh forced to pay taxes on your behalf, they're not. Um, but the bottom line is you can structure this upright and you just gotta fight for it. Nothing's free in life, man. We've got to push for this freedom, and we got to push to train these people, and you've got to do it in a form and fashion that's uh respectful. So we'll figure that out. Um, do we include ARR without prejudice, non-assumption on our signature when signing the receipts at the bank each time a depositor withdraws made?

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No.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, Logan, here we go. Your response. I'm sorry. I'm not in New York. Okay. Oh, I did address that. Um, Logan, I'm gonna call you tomorrow morning uh with Alex. We did address that. Um I think it uh I think I told Alex to respond a certain way to you in that we couldn't do what you wanted to do on your application. You were trying to include a FOIA in your passport application pack. Um and I did review it, and I thought I just gotta go back with Alex and figure out what it exactly we said you or where it was said, but uh between the hours of nine and ten Pacific, um look for a phone call and the phone number in the comments. Text me at this number between that time and sends it out to everyone and um we'll find out the response that you need. But my apologies, buddy. I I did go over and I meet with Alex once or twice a week and we go over all the tickets. I think there's somewhere in there either he didn't post a response or um it's there and you missed it. But if you're trying to do something on your own, I always just kind of tell people if it's outside of the box of something that we don't like. I always just say buyer beware, you know, just be careful with what you're trying to get done. Um if you don't mind, uh Logan Do you mind having a live conversation and I'll allow you to talk? Unmute you. You would have to unmute yourself on your end loading and then you can ask your question. Um you're gonna ask me to review a FOIA, I just want to know exactly what you're trying to accomplish with the FOIA that you're submitted with the password application maybe it is not right now. You can't unmute it on your end.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

And um text me tomorrow morning between eight and nine Pacific and we'll address you to slam this from that you got that. That's it. Other questions I'm gonna go over to uh YouTube. Um Old World buildings, resurrected saints, the thousand year millennial reign of Jesus Christ, what's foretold in the book of Revelation, chapter 20. Does anyone know? Explain more what you were trying to say there. The old world saints and the millennial reign. Does anyone know of states that would authenticate my active state document? Um Michigan will not. There's a lot of states that will don't worry about the authentication of your active state. Do me a favor. Um, we can beat the price of what every Secretary of State is offering. We can put your docs in the public on our end. So if you um have a need for the ability to record your documents, um, we can do that for you to staff Y. Just ask Alex to publicly record the documents, the active state, and we'll get it done for you. Um the the live stream doesn't really look that good on YouTube land, so my apologies. Um uh okay, hold on. Your mic is on. Give me a second, Logan. Okay, go on. Go ahead, Logan. All right, can you hear me? I can. What would you uh tell me about the FOIA?

SPEAKER_00

Well, first and foremost, have you reviewed it?

SPEAKER_01

I look, I probably spend about three or four hours a week with Alex reviewing a lot of different things. I review a lot of FOIA, so I review a lot of things for people, so just refresh my memory, please.

SPEAKER_00

Is there somewhere I can send it to you real quick?

SPEAKER_01

I can't review it live right now for you. I'll do it for you in the morning between eight and nine. And again, I'll call you just to make sure that we're understanding what you're trying to get done to make it make sense to me. Because if people are changing the scope of what we're trying to do, I don't necessarily disagree. I just want to understand the context. If you can tell me the context of what you're trying to get accomplished, um, and then tomorrow morning we can review it and then make a quick phone call to you to settle this out in your mind, I'd be fine.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, that works. I can explain it right now. Um as as well. Um it's not changing the process at all. I like the process. I like what you're doing. I'm trying to add To it or at least get your opinion. Uh it's it's totally fine if you don't think it it adds anything to the process, but um the frustration is just coming from waiting almost a month. Um it's essentially uh a DHS FOIA where um I'm not sure if you've ever seen one before, but uh it's essentially I think it's I-94, uh where you're requesting proof of citizenship. And so Yeah, I remember now uh it's a response from them saying no record.

SPEAKER_01

Sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

Were you gonna say it's a response from the Department of Homeland Security saying a there is no record of citizenship exactly so uh and my where I'm coming from is I think it's powerful because a horse is sound and I thought it would add like you always say that extra l uh layer of Kevlar if you will. Um I think it's I think it's great. Uh but I want to talk to you about it before I just go off and do something without you know talking first.

SPEAKER_01

Remember kind of the just so that you understand, we'll talk about it in the morning too, because we got a little bit of a delay here that doesn't make it easy to talk. Um you you in fact are never ever gonna be the U.S. citizen. Um the U.S. citizen is in fact the birth certificate. And so when you understand that we're operating as kind of like the the trustee or the the security instrument for the birth certificate, um again, I'll review it with you tomorrow, and I have seen those before. And and anything you do uh from a color of law standpoint is going to be very fruitful. I can't see how that would hurt. Um, but I gotta remember, I thought there was some issue with that. And I asked Alex to write to a question, so let me make a determination of what that was. Excuse me.

SPEAKER_00

Um Well, I haven't I haven't go ahead.

SPEAKER_01

No, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

Um, so I have not received a response from Alex at all since um since uh upon my request for him to forward you the FOIA, he actually refused to forward it to you, and he told me I have to come on live and ask you directly. So I've done that for the last two weeks, still nothing. Um and essentially, just to respond to what you said, um I I agree with you. I think um I mean I understand that the the BC is is the US person, um, however, as we know, well know in this community, we're being presumed to have that body attachment. They're they're treating our body as if it's the BC, if if if I understand that correctly. So having that uh FOIA from them, essentially once again from the horse's mouth, it it pretty much it just nukes any presumption. We we're just trying to erase the presumption, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so uh let me ask you this. Um, when you had written um in the foyer and you got this letter from them, sorry, it's real dry up here. I don't have my water, I'm drinking out of a um um plastic bottle. I'm kind of not digging on it. That's not fun. I'm a little spoiled with water. So when when you when you did your request, what were you basing it on before uh having them prove that you were not a U.S. citizen? Because you're you're doing it currently with your state citizenship passport. How do you think they came about the understanding that you were not a U.S. citizen already?

SPEAKER_00

Because uh from that's a great question. And um personally, I think it's all presumption, right? So it's almost like uh the whole this whole thing is make-believe. It's like their presumption is not based on anything other than uh what we're doing contractually, so they get they're able to create the presumption through our mistakes contractually. Sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01

No, just ta tacit consent. Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, exactly. So so that's why when you just simply request, uh when you just simply ask them, they say, oh no, no. Uh and of course it's plausible deniability for them, uh as they always do. They leave. Listen, these people, even though what they're doing is arguably uh evil, if I mean some people could make that point, but they do stay an honor. So it's like they're basing their yes, they tricked us, but it's our duty to be competent in what we're doing. So yeah, they technically tricked us, but it just goes to prove the FOIA almost goes to prove that when you actually specifically ask them, Is this what I am? They'll say, Oh no, no, no, no, it's not. We don't have any record of that. And you're like, Yeah, okay, that's what I thought.

SPEAKER_01

So it just in the FOIA request. My my apologies. In the in the FOIA request, did you ask them if you were a United States citizen from an understanding in their records to that degree?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I rem I'd have to look up exactly what the question was, but it states in the FOIA itself that it's simply uh uh I forget exactly what the wording, but it's a request for citizenship um from DHS, uh the US, the United States, you know, person.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, we did we did address this. Alex and I did address this, and my apologies. I don't make you mean to make you feel like you're being pushed out. Um but let's uh let's circle around in the morning. Um, I just want to make sure it's it's buttoned up tightly from a standpoint of because you would need to um place a certified copy of the FOIA. So you'd have to do a self-certification of the FOIA because they're not gonna give that to you under the pants and bellies of perjury.

SPEAKER_00

Well, that's uh that's the other that's the other uh thing that I had mentioned to Alex when I initially wrote the message. Uh I explained to him that I had it federally authenticated, uh, so I could get that, you know, like you just mentioned, that's that certif certific uh certification uh because I didn't want to just uh you know turn it in just at a as a printed out copy. So I actually went down um and got it, got a federal authentication on it. Uh and Alex seemed very confused. He didn't he said he didn't know what it was.

SPEAKER_01

He he said, authentication is the is you're authenticating the notary, correct?

SPEAKER_00

It's not notarized.

SPEAKER_01

So when you're saying you you federally authenticated it, what was the form requirement that you were able to do that with? And what did they give back to? Are they placing something into public record and certifying it back to what does that mean to you, federally authenticated?

SPEAKER_00

It's it's I went down to I went down to um the passport center and I physically gave them the uh the document. I physic I physically gave it to them, and then it was just it's no different same same um same process as the uh birth certificate authentication. Yeah, but that's confusing that's confusing on top of it. They they um I forget what you call it, they put uh a ribbon and they they tied it, they attached the document.

SPEAKER_01

So I've never heard of anybody authenticating anything necessarily outside of federal documents, is my point.

SPEAKER_00

It is a it is a federal document. The FOIA, your FOIA. Yes, it's it's it's from DHS.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, you you're talking about the one that they gave you. Yes. So the authentication, I thought you were talking about your FOIA. The authentication really from a method standpoint is only for the ability of you being able to show people outside of the United States, which is a powerful document, but to show people outside of the United States that it is a federally authenticated document. So it's absolutely a certified copy from the federal government. I understand what you're saying now. I thought you were talking about your FOIA, and you know, I was confused. My apologies. Wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_00

Uh, I'm sorry. No, no, I am what do you think I'm talking about? The birth certificate?

SPEAKER_01

No, no, no. The uh I think you're talking about the Department of Homeland Security's response. Is that correct?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, which is which is uh response to the FOIA.

SPEAKER_01

Correct. I thought you were talking about your original FOIA with no response.

SPEAKER_00

There there was no original FOIA from with no response. I don't know where you're getting that from.

SPEAKER_01

When you fill okay, so some people fill out a FOIA form, which is apparently what you did. Some people did not. What did you do to do a FOIA?

SPEAKER_00

It's just simply there there they responded. I don't know if they consider the FOIA. Um, so the I it's a I-94 uh request for citizen request for citizenship verification. Sorry, and that's what they're calling a FOIA.

SPEAKER_01

Got it. Um now I understand. So you did an I-94, they responded with a document to which you've now been able to federally certify as authentic.

SPEAKER_00

And in that, exactly, and in and on that document, they're calling it a FOIA. They're can they're considering what I did with the I-94 a FOIA, and there's and they're uh acknowledging that there's no record of me being a U.S. citizen, United States citizen. No records were responsive to that.

SPEAKER_01

I think it is powerful, and I think what you have is bulletproof from the IRS because the IRS um can only lean on individuals, employees of the United States, and corporations that cannot lean on um non-employees, meaning there is millions of U.S. citizens that have liens on them, and they're not and not have ever been a United States employee, and they are a United States citizen, but under the IRS code, you need to be an employee of the United States. So I think just to top it off, you know, the in our living in the private program where you do the proof of non-employment, you've covered both elements of the citizenship with the Department of Homeland Security, and you've also covered it with the United States, um, proving you're not you're non-employee, which means you're not operating in the role of employment ship over the BC, and you're not operating in the role of U.S. citizenship personally. Um, I think it's probably gonna be uh an excellent opportunity for you to put in as at a minimum an exhibit. Um, I don't know if it's gonna do anything for you to speed the passport process up, but it'll give you something that you can also have certified from the Department of State later showing it on as an exhibit. I don't think that's gonna be a problem at all.

SPEAKER_00

So when you say uh label that as an exhibit, are you are you saying that when I put it in with the passport application along with your explanatory statement? And um you you need me to put like a another cover. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the the plan the explanatory statement has a list of exhibits on it.

SPEAKER_00

Added in. Uh-huh. So you want me to add it to there?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. Yeah, I did see that. I saw that it has um I saw that. It has a list of uh when we're when we're doing the request for certified copy, it has a list of the stuff that we're submitting. Yeah, 100%. Okay, so okay, well, um, okay, all right. Well, yeah, that's so I'm glad that you agree that.

SPEAKER_01

Well, as you can see, it would have taken a conversation anyways to figure this one out.

SPEAKER_00

Well, yeah, I I know. That's why I that's why I asked Alex to pass it along to you and you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. My apologies, buddy. I don't mean to make you feel like you're pushed out. You're not.

SPEAKER_00

Well, um, okay. Well, uh, I'd still like to talk to you tomorrow.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. We'll talk in the morning. Text me a number, okay?

SPEAKER_00

Um re repeat your the instructions one more time that you need me to follow.

SPEAKER_01

Uh there's a number in the comments that I posted. Just text me that number, whatever number you want to call at, and in the morning and we'll we'll get it done. And what are the hours? 8 and 9 Pacific.

SPEAKER_00

Between 8 a.m. and 9 a.m. Pacific. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Where are you? What code, Steve? I'm in DC. Okay, so about 12 to 1 year time.

SPEAKER_00

Or no, no, 11 to 12 year time. No, no, 11 to 12. No, wait.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, 11 to 12. So just text that number with the number, just put your name on it, and we'll give you a call up that number.

SPEAKER_00

Alright, appreciate it.

SPEAKER_01

You gotta look at it, have a good one.

SPEAKER_00

All right, you too, bye-bye.

SPEAKER_01

So Hawkeye. Hawkeye, I would open up your I saw your email come in today. I'm like, cool, I'll get it addressed right now, but um I can't open my Outlook right now. And uh you can copy your email and post them into your text to me, and I can address them right now. Or I can call you in the morning between 8 and 9 as well. If that's cool, let me know. Alright, guys, look, I appreciate it, man. Um, blessings. Um, thank you so much for coming on and joining. I think we're gonna be uh um able to do the VIP on Thursday between 9 and 10 a.m. And then uh again, I'll be doing a um, I believe a Sunday morning uh prayer call. So appreciate you guys coming on. Um, it's been uh it's been an awesome opportunity to get some time in and uh and talk. I know that signal's not coming through on YouTube that well, but um it is what it is. God bless. Have a great week. Um, I'll see you on Thursday, VIP members, for the inspirational uh meetup, and uh looking forward to it. Enjoy your week.