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2026-01-12- Q & A- Living Privately

Kelby Smith Season 7 Episode 89

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And live stream. All right. Done on both. Welcome. I want to thank you guys for uh coming to this January 12, 2026 question and answer. Super excited about the coming year. Um it's it's kind of strange. You you you look at all the things that are going on um in the world right now, and so many people um are operating in a form of fear or form of not knowing what to do, um, fight or flight. Uh this is why um I'm working with the VIP members on understanding the most important thing, how to control our minds. And you know, one of those I I just want to touch on this topic just a little bit, and um, because the world is changing dramatically fast today. Um gold is forty, six hundred dollars an ounce. I mean, that means my necklace and the few little charms I got on it, uh it's uh value, it's real money. And um, well, that's funny. You always want to make noise when I'm doing this, but never any other time. All right, all right, whatever. Um, you know, first and foremost, gold is real money. Um, I've been uh working with his advocates for going on 15 years and as his advocates for 14 years, but meaning this this all started probably 17, 18 years ago, where uh I started trying to figure out what it what it meant to come out. Um I got involved in the reformation of the republic. Um, it was the most important thing I ever did in my life, and I started looking around me and I I started realizing there wasn't anybody in Republic because people were still getting indicted, people were still um having jurisdiction uh exercised over them. And and then um the at the acting president of the time, I read his case, how they had jurisdiction over him, and I went, shut up, it can't be that easy. And that's really where his advocates spawned off of. I looked at a guy who was um half Indian and uh meaning Native American, and he looked as white as white gets, and they had to trick him to going to um the quote unquote uh Los Angeles Air Force Base, which is really a CIA headquarters, and um to apply for citizenship as uh and receive a passport as a U.S. citizen. And here he was a guy who only had identification as uh a Cherokee and a self-made ID, and who lived a long and prosperous and good life. And then they nailed him by getting uh him to apply and receive identification where his application showed he was a U.S. citizen by his own hand. And that's really where the whole thing woke me up from. I I started reading warrants, meaning what a judge authorizes to go through your house, your cars, your stuff, your banks, um, and indictments where supposedly a grand jury or the equivalent thereof um in current judicial process, look over uh and and they make a true bill for a crime, they make, you know, uh an indictment for um, you know, they there's the civil procedures, there's the bottom line is when you look at warrants, indictments, true bills, the things to which they have to show first the cause of where they have jurisdiction. You will see why the living in the private program was created and where we reverse engineered and why we did what we did to make it so people can be not just a state citizen, but where jurisdiction is wanting. And that's really where it spawned from. And we have been working on the perfecting of this going on 14 years, and meaning the living in the private program. We have members that have gone through the entire program, um, have never filed a return again with the IRS, do not have an obligation to. We have and never received a door knock, never had anything happen to them since. We haven't had one member with one single issue where um they're receiving door knocks or what have you. It's it's people that are outside of understanding how to deal with the IRS that are going to have issues where they fill out a W4, they fill out a W9, and they don't do the fiduciary responsible thing, which is file a return. Um and where you're operating as the trustee over the trust, meaning the trust is the birth certificate or the corporation, and you're you're not uh you're receiving income as the quote unquote trustee of the birth certificate. And because you filled out a W-4, you're not doing the obligation of filing a 1040 return, and you're gonna be held liable because this is these are contracts, and the contract is the highest form of covenant there is between two parties. And so when you're in trust law, there is no higher form of law there is on the land, and that's what the Constitution says. The men's right to contract self-execute their own contract is the highest and absolute guaranteed thing that they have. And so you got to look to the Constitution as to why you're able to do what you're able to do. And people, you know, how because this was done in such a tricky format, where they the deception is is large, you know. They they made the United States corporation. Um, sounds almost exactly like the United States of America. They declared that our nation was a corporation, they started teaching people that, and then we just fell for that, like it was the absolute correct thing, and that we all are United States citizens. But then they put words on every agreement. Taxpayer, I agree I am a taxpayer, I agree I am a US person. Like, um, okay, I'm a US person. And um, I agree I am a driver, I agree I am a voter, um, I agree I'm an employee. Um, you know, and you don't realize what you're doing by that self-executing right to agree with another entity. And so by coming to these trust indentures, and they're all trust indentures, a driver's license, it's a self-executing trust. Um, and there's people that are going to disagree with that, but tell me where they countersign it. They don't. That means you have the grantor, state of California, you have the uh beneficial interest, read the back, and then you coming in as the liable, the trustee. So it's like a trust, whether it reads like a trust or not, it is like a trust, and it's a self-executing, self-deprecating uh uh adhesion trust. This is why I've called them, and I coined that word years ago, adhesion trust. And by doing that, you're now having the right to contract and to give up and take a lesser form of rights. And I can't explain this enough to enough people, and even when you do, they have attacked this on the other side, um, to the point where they've made it almost as if it should not be believed. And this is uh this is why we wrote the book, and why this book is the most important thing that you can actually give as a gift to somebody. Um, I can't say it enough. This this book is our way to show that the Supreme Court of the United States of America agrees with the element that there is dual citizenship on our lands, that there is a state and a federal, um, and that the IRS is, I mean, it doesn't the Supreme Court doesn't say this, but the IRS absolutely lies about that. And when you go to the IRS website about state citizenship, they don't cite a case, they just cite the fact that you are a state and you are a federal, and that's that's a big fat maybe. And there might be people that are a state citizen and obliged under federal citizenship because they haven't designed that, they haven't structured that up for themselves. But I assure you, in this book, we show the Supreme Court rulings that are absolutely agreeing with what I'm about to say that you can be a state citizen exclusively and not a federal citizen. So just knowing that, what are the ramifications? Well, that the federal government does not have authority over you. So there's many things that apply. There's people out there and the right for doing so, but there's people out there teaching that you don't have to pay taxes, the taxes are voluntary, and and in all fairness, I agree. There are no public laws. What is a public law? It's where Congress has voted on the existence of andor agreed to that the IRS is an absolute mandatory thing for U.S. citizens to do and file upon, and it's just not the truth. There's no public law, no law whatsoever that requires you to file a return. What's happening is in order for you to get a job, you have to work for a company, and the company is going to require you to fill out a W4 or a W9. And in doing so, you think I have no obligation to file a return, and this is why people get in trouble. They they take a lesser form of agreement, citizenship, read the W4. It's uh you're giving up your rights to receive a wage, to to receive something from a company, and that's your right to do. You're you're you have an un you know, you have a right to give up your guaranteed unalienable right for a lesser form of rights to be an employee of a company and to receive a wage. And in doing so, taxes are absolute. And so they've kind of cornered the market where people out there are filling out all these agreements, and then they're coming out with um this, hey, I'm tax exempt, or there's no contract, and then they just don't know what they're doing, they just don't understand tax law, they don't understand contract law. And I will assure you that your contracts from 20 years ago still apply today to today because they don't have an expiration policy until you've done something to expire the contract. And it could be for any number of reasons why you're able to expire a contract. Unconscionable, it could be you're a minor, it could be you didn't understand the terms, terminology, it could be that uh you didn't know that the United States wasn't the same as the United States of America, it could be that you didn't know that uh it was something that was voluntary, it could be any number of reasons why you can cancel an agreement. But where people are failing, which is why we do three things, total of nine docs, three fully executed records called court of records administrative processes with the IRS. One revocation of election. And I say this to people because it's super important for them to understand the revocation of election is absolute. It's your guaranteed right to revoke the election to volunteer your tax. And it's done in a form that is, you know, when the IRS created their code, you ask any CPA, well, what's the revocation of election? And why is it available for people to revoke the election to pay taxes if the IRS wasn't voluntary? So you deal with the revocation, but you've got to deal with what you've done with the IRS already. And that's the second form of what we do, which is the removal of signature. So we do a removal of signature, we do a notice of non-response with an opportunity to cure, and then we do a certificate of default. So we've perfected an administrative process on all three things that we do: the revocation of election, we perfect an administrative process on the removal of signature, and we perfect an administrative process on notice of status. What happens when you do this is you remove the elements fully of an agreement with the IRS as a state citizen. You could do it as a U.S. citizen, you're kind of leaving yourself open for prosecution to somebody who just wants to work around the system of truth, justice, and freedom. And this is why we got to keep putting on these levels and layers of Kavlar. And then that's kind of why I work it that way in my mind and put it into your mind so that you understand that really there is levels and layers of Kevlar that we got to be thinking through for our future. So I want to make sure I got a lot of flak jackets on. And if if there's a level five Kevlar, I want to put on all five. If there's bigger bullets, uh, you know, uh 50 cal, I want to make sure that my Kevlar can handle a 50 cal. It's it's obviously an analogy. Um uh really just to kind of or more or less a metaphor, just to show people um that we want to make sure we're covering all the past that what that what what we've done. We want to cover the present canceling the agreement, and we want to show that our status has been perfected, and therefore there's no jurisdiction wanting. Super important. So that's the IRS alone. And and when you're dealing with the Department of Motor Vehicles and you're dealing with um this corporation, really the banks behind the company, because the corporation known as the United States is in a bankruptcy. So the creditors of the bankruptcy and the trustees of the bankruptcy are the federal judges, talk about conflict of interest. You're going into court for charges, they're trying to bring judgment, which means money, to the court. So, yeah, obviously, if you know they're appointing you an attorney and the attorney's paid by the state, the judge works for the state, the charges were made by a member of the state, it's a completely biased judicial proceeding. And when judgment is rendered, which is why 99.9% of all indictments federally are won by the court, look at the math, they all serve for for the court. As a matter of fact, that's good tea, thank you, baby. As a matter of fact, I want you to understand what corporate jurisdiction says about an attorney. Okay? Your first obligation when you are an attorney with an oath of affirmation is to the state. The second, as an attorney, your oath and affirmation is to the court. The third is to the ward or the client. The client is a ward of the state. The client is not even allowed to have a voice. So the second you retain an attorney, that attorney serves you on a silver platter to the state, and you don't even have a voice in it. You will come up at the end and say, Yeah, I've agreed to all of this. And you're gonna think you can't get out of it because they're making a plea deal to the 20 years, and that's the scare. You're gonna get 20 years of your life. It's a big scare, and I agree it is a scare, but we're gonna do two, and you're gonna take this plea deal, and it'll be a reduced charge, this, that, and the other, and you'll get off, you know, three to five years, you'll you'll have, you know, some form of an assemblance of freedom. And God, what a what a screwball tactic. You know, you don't even get a formal true bill, you don't even get to face your accuser anymore. You just get arrested and then indicted and presumed guilty, um, even though we have uh presumed innocent until proven guilty, and you're you're you're half the time uh you're not even allowed to bond, or if you bond, there's all these restrictions and requirements, and then they force you to retain an attorney, somebody who's on their staff, their team, or they treat you like an absolute POS, and you're not even allowed to operate. This is how they keep people under control, and then Homeland Security and the FBI and the court all have come together against state citizens, but they don't call them state citizens. And the reason they come together against these sovereign citizens, they've created an oxymoron that I can't find in any court record. They they make fun of it, they made a movie about it recently, sovereign citizen, whatever it is, um with the guy from office, and uh they they took the worst potential possible person to represent in a movie so that they can showcase the absolute craziness of people that think they have freedom, people that think they can be outside of the jurisdiction of the United States. Let me explain something to you. If you want absolute proof that you are not in the jurisdiction of the United States as a state citizen, this is your book. This is absolute unequivocal shepherdized case laws, proving you have the right to be a state citizen, not to be a thug, not to go shoot police, not to act inappropriately, not to say you're not in I'm not under your control. No, you gotta be above reproach and you gotta be smarter than these guys because they've been uneducated about this topic and subject matter to a degree that makes you look like a fool, an illegal, unlawful fool for doing what you're doing, even though you have the right in law to do what you're doing. Secondly, they put these people up all over the country to spread disinformation. And it's lawful for them to do this, it's lawful for the IRS to put something up that is a lie about state citizenship, because it's called propagandizing. Propagandizing, according to the Supreme Court in 2006, they are allowed to lie to you to propagandize you. Now, that's been going on since the mid-40s. Project Bluebeam, I think it was called, and that's why television was created, and they specifically created channels and programs and all these words that have a corresponding duality or meaning to television, to channel information, you know, uh uh to program your mind, and it goes even deeper than that, and and why they picked uh Hollywood and these different elements of ways of taking propagandizing the entirety of the population. And it was super important for them to do that in their mind because you know, as a king or as a ruling class of elites, um as a uh you know, these elites have this opportunity to um invest in bonds at two to one, they got opportunities to uh do all kinds of things that you and I as regular Joe Six Pack citizens um don't get to do. And here You find a little bit of truth, you realize it, you vetted in the law, and I don't want to be one of those guys that gets pulled over, disrespected, and deal dealing with local law enforcement. And I don't want to be that guy that has to disrespect local law enforcement. I want to be the guy that shines for God. But at the same time, I think we've even got a misunderstanding of God's intent of how we need to be behaving as believers across this nation and world. And that's a whole nother element of what we're teaching to the VIP members and his advocates because absolutely, guys, absolutely, the King James is a manipulated, modified Bible. Not all of it. Key important words, important phrases, twisted, conformed. And most every single church in the world uses that as the basis for their teaching to teach submission, turning the other cheek, operating as a soft, you know, placating to your government form of a human being, or what have you. And I think when we start to get our minds wrapped around really what we have in this nation and really how we can be free, no matter the agenda, I just saw your post. I fear 2030. You shouldn't fear anything. Showing we are not under the jurisdiction of the federal authority, which means under any authority but God, we're the only recognized class of people in the world that has this. Where is the fear coming from? I think the fear is that you've been programmed to believe certain things about certain people. And yes, they show these certain clips of funny cop dealing with sovereign citizen, funny cop dealing with or court judge dealing with sovereign citizen. Of course, they're gonna create this, let the algorithm fly to hundreds of thousands of views. So people like you, no offense, not trying to offend you, live in fear. But once you get clear that there is a class, state citizen, which is equivalent to being directly under God as a self-governed man or woman, the fear starts to really lighten up, especially when you're dealing with an organization that has helped thousands of people over the last 14 years to come out of her, my people. Speaking specifically to God's people. So on that note, fear is one of the things that I've been able to personally conquer. I'm not saying there's not times to which things come up, but I know how to control the fear. I know how to not take it in, take it personally, and I teach the VIP members this on a major level, like you wouldn't believe. As a matter of fact, we started um a nine-week transformation process that is going to change the outlook and mindset of every believer, I'm hoping, in our nation, because I believe we're being sucked in, baited in to believe a narrative on a show, on an act, on a play that we should not be sucked in and believing. And I think that we need to be standing directly under the yellow hean with jurisdiction proper, not investing, not believing in the counter whore narrative of that corporation, masquerading as the real nation. Trump and listen to me very carefully. I've never said I do not like Trump. I'm going to say something very clear to you. He does not take on the white elephants of this nation that are very clearly still happening. And he is absolutely in direct alignment and support in support of things and people, nations, that I can unequivocally tell you God is not in support of biblically. And I'm gonna tell you that his support of these organizations that did forced things on our nation had a direct impact to the death of millions of people, and it's the new number one cause of death that is taking the immune system and weakening it across the board for cancer, for heart disease, for whatever is going on in your system, it will hyper inflate it and kill you and put you into a position of being weakened. Now, knowing that doesn't mean he can take the entire structure of the world on at once. I get it. Knowing that he can't shut down structures, and there is that element that he should be doing a 5D chess that is out there on the queue where everybody is talked about, and he's playing this game of 5D chess. But the problem is he's saying, I got this, don't worry about it. Trust the white hats, do nothing. That's been the the the narrative forever. What happened to Iran when they were told to do nothing in 79? 47 years of hell is what happened. Is Iran doing nothing this year, or is Trump telling the people to rise up? Is Trump coming to the dictator and saying to the dictators, touch these people, and I will da-da-da-da. We already have a government replacing, and you may not realize this, but it may be there to serve the new king of the world, Donald Trump. Donald Trump has been praised by many countries in the Middle East, specifically, as the king of the world. There is people all over the world pumping Trump, Trump, Trump, Savior. He is the only one that has ever been able to do what he's done to a dictator, quote unquote, or a king of Venezuela, like he did. Ran an operation, they trained and trained and trained 159 times, developed an exact duplicate of what they have, ran mission training for years, infiltrated, surrounded him with CIA agents. This is what they do. This is how they take over a country. They gave 50 million to the right-hand guy. Why? And charged him with what? Drug trafficking. Oh, okay. If that's the case, then why isn't the CIA being charged with drug trafficking? Why isn't the federal government being charged and the people operating inside of the federal government being charged with drug trafficking? It's because this guy was profiting too much. We weren't, he was giving the oil to China, and and we didn't want that deal to take place. And we even stopped a boat from going out, meaning Russia was already buying. New deal happened uh with China. What what what is this really all about? This is so we can control the oil reserves of the world. We just cut China and Russia off, and we did it without a single American dying. And now who's dying for the Middle East, the Middle Eastern people for Iran? Who's dying to bring that freedom? Iran. Who's already ready to go in and replace Iran's president or Khomeini as the new president? Well, they've already the president's already turned against the Ayatollah. I'm just saying, guys, look, this is 25 years in the making. This isn't overnight. This is what has happened to multiple countries across the world, and I can read you the scriptures where it says it's going to happen. And then there's going to be this time of glorious riches and peace. And a deal with the Middle East will be made, and peace will be throughout the Middle East. Israel. We're here. We're here. Now, God in his commandment is telling his people to get the heck out of that structure. Because Trump, as the US corporate CEO president, cannot give you the privileges of freedom or to be in republic without your consent or permission. Right here. It's very simple, guys. People don't realize that that cannot be taken from you. It's something that can't. I don't have my book. Here it is. Afrum versus Rusk. Supreme Court shepherdized. The Supreme Court held that the United States citizenship cannot be involuntarily revoked by the government or voluntarily revoked, affirming that the constitutional protection to the person himself of the federal citizenship under the 14th Amendment. Meaning, guys, guess what? Trump can't revoke your ability to be self-contracted to a corporation that's bankrupted and going out of business, out of business, and where the assets are being dispersed, been dispersed long ago. Remember something. Roosevelt made it illegal to own gold. Okay. We are in that same position right now. And if you take a look at the the the edict, if you will, best way to describe it, it looks a lot like what was passed last month by this company, corporation. The language is very similar as to the overthrow of your control of gold. And they took tons of gold, tons of gold, tons of gold, and then they revalued it overnight. So you were holding on something of X. They took it from you, gave you $20 or whatever equivalent for an ounce, and then revalued it overnight, a couple weeks, a couple months, whatever later, to $35 for the government. And then the whole world came into line saying, Well, they've got the brunt of it, they've determined the value, and they're cashing it in for $35. Everybody around the world started sending their gold to the United States, allowing for the United States to pay $35 an ounce. And the dollar became the world's reserve currency. The dollar became the most powerful dollar in the world. And then they made a deal with Saudi Arabia and the Middle East. Even though we have plenty of oil here. You buy our debt, we will buy your oil. Knowing fully that they made a plan to go take over the Middle East way back in the day. And that plan came to fruition under uh a general who outed the plan and said, We're going to go take over five countries in the Middle East in 10 years. All of this stuff was outed in the late 90s, early 2000s. So for 25, 30 years, actually, way back in the 70s, when you buy our debt, we will buy your oil. What was happening when that happens? I'm not going to explain, but the reality is, as you were watching an exchange, they kept taking on the debt. Ultimately, their assets, their reserves became ours under the United States, which is what is in receivership. Why did it become ours? Because we took it over. We instituted our Federal Reserve Banking S, which made them a party too, which made every one of their assets come under that umbrella. And they were no longer a standalone. They were no longer under their own currency. They were no longer under their own mineral rights. What did we do with Ukraine? What did we do with every nation in Africa? We went after their mineral rights, what they have in the ground, controls, enriched their kings, and empowered their nation's leadership with money, money, money. We kept pouring in through the IMF loans to the nth degree or cash that we never recovered for guaranteed rights of ownership and controls of their nation and their people. And what did they do? They pledged their mineral rights and they also pledged their birth certificates, their people's claim and equivalent to their life, that now are being traded under the Securities and Exchange Commission. If you don't know this, why is the United States the whore? Well, the United States took everybody, indebted the world, the whole world, and put all the life equivalent of the people under the Securities and Exchange Commission as an asset pledged to the what? Bankruptcy to which what the creditors are being paid out on. So now everything has been pledged: the gold, the silver, the land. House resolution 1491, the land. Now the people of the world. What is God saying? Come out of her, my people. Stop pledging your life, your fortune, your sacred honor, your compensation to the whore. Don't go to the whore for a benefit. A whore is a whore. You pay the whore for a reason. You pay the whore because you want something back from the whore. Right? Everybody's going to the whore for a benefit. Currently in our nation, though, the benefit is what? Really not much anymore. You're taxed to the nine. You're taxed on top of your tax. You've already paid taxes on your wages, but you're taxed again when you go to the store and buy something. You're taxed at the gas pump. You're taxed at the restaurant. You're taxed everywhere. And then when you die, you're taxed again. This has never been more simple. See, I'm going to tell you why we structured up what we did at his advocates. Number one, if the federal government had autonomy over every person in this nation, if the federal government had autonomy over every person in this nation, why then? Why think about this for a second? Why then would they need to write a two-page document exerting where they have jurisdiction over that person? That right there is done. I won. I proved the federal government does not autonomously, by absolute guarantee, have jurisdiction over every single person in this nation. Otherwise, they wouldn't have to prove subject matter jurisdiction in a case. And I keep pounding this into your minds because guess what? We can come out of that structure and come under the Elohim, which is what our founders gave us. Did you sign the Declaration of Independence? The answer is no. You signed a driver's license agreement. You signed a Social Security Agreement pledging to be an employee of the United States. You gave a lesser beneficial interest for a late-term retirement and opportunity so you can be called an employee of the United States. As an employee of the United States, they have policies of the job that you are required and full and mandated to fulfill. Do you know what mandate means? Do you know what the word must do actually means? Go look it up. Black's law, these things. I'm saying these things to you because you've been programmed to think that lesser is better. U.S. citizenship is safer. And Trump is at the top of this corporation, and it looks in some cases like he really wants to save this nation. It really does. And I'm I'm happy to entertain that concept, but I'm not going to be fooled. Because in this case, where you know the law and you understand that the Supreme Court has said you can be a state citizen and not a federal citizen, you know unequivocally that there's got to be a process to come out. And when you're contributing to the whore, you're going to get syphilis. That's the sexual equivalent to have to pay taxes. When you're contributing to the whore and you're building the whore, you're going to be a party to the sins of the whore. You're going to be judged. And that's literally what Revelations 18, 4, and 5 say. This is why God wants you out. He wants his people to be protected. And it even says that what is it's a mystery. But there's nothing else from 17, 18, and 19 of Revelations that applies. And why do I care and why do I talk about the Bible so much? And especially prophetic, it hasn't come true because I can't find anything prophetic in the Bible that hasn't come true. Meaning the past that was prophetic, written 2,000 years ago, I can show. Written 2400, 600, 3000 years ago, came true here. Came true here. Came true here. There are some prophetics, Ezekiel 38, different things that haven't come to fruition yet. My point is, is the prophetic is legit. Why? Because God wrote it. Through man, inspired. Why is that important for us to get? Well, we got a way out. You keep you worried about 2030. You got a plan. You got a way out. I don't know exactly the playbook. I know I'm just instructed to do something. And you're, if you're a believer, instructed to do something. I don't need to understand the play by play. I don't need to know what farm am I going to go to, how am I going to work with a body of people and all these things. I don't need to know that. I don't care to know that. I'm gonna develop this out just like Joseph did, man. I'm gonna build the vat of grain and just do whatever I can to make sure that I'm helping as many people as I can. I know that God has handled my business, taking care of Kelby and Kelby's family. I know what God has done. I know this isn't Sunday, but I know what God has done. And I am not going to fear man or the coming of things. And you know what? Nobody knows what's going to be 2030. Nobody knows what's going to be 2026, 27, 28, 29. I want you to know that there is some things that that might seem very fearful. Especially if you're a woman or special. I'm being cute, but at the same time, it's not the time to be cute. Guys, men, it's time that we get our houses in order. Trump cannot bring the republic back. Republic's already been brought back. Trump can step into Republic and make an operation for the people, but the people have to make moves on their own to come out of that structure because that is a corporation and you're tied to it to the nth degree to sub-class benefits, rights, and privileges comparative to the declaration, the Bill of Rights that we have, the the the constitutional guarantees, the Bill of Rights, that our God-given rights are our protected class. Trump can't do a dang thing for you. It is your own hand and pin by fixing your mark on a set of documents, canceling out something that's already taken place, and redesigning yourself to come under the Elohim. State citizenship. The word state is body of people. What did they do? They said, God, you are the king. Read the Declaration of Independence. So there's a process that we do to help you get a passport as a State of the Union citizen. And that's just the beginning of the process. But we give you the vehicles and the way that you can pledge everything to God right now, be in full control, be a hundred percent exempt, 100% of dex uh death tax proof, 100% capital gains proof, or you can put your crypto where not your crypto, his crypto. You can put everything that you're a fiduciary over in this structure and be ironclad and tight. Why? Because when you die, you own nothing. Okay, you've got to have something that is going to bypass all of that garbage, uh, inheritance, uh, death, you know, all these things that people worry about. You don't want deeds to continually change over. Once you get your deed structured up properly, which is something that we do at his advocates, and nobody else is doing. Nobody else is doing what we are doing. We are an anomaly in this world. There are people out there making attempts to do certain things, but they are really screwing things up to a large degree. There are some guys that are doing other things that I don't know enough about, and that's that's another branch or extension of maybe something God wants people to consider. But there's a reality coming out of her is only done one way, and that you need to make sure that every single agreement that you have done is handled so they can't find three ways of getting you through a federal or a state indictment. Super, super important. Let's get to questions. Um, what forms of security ID will the new his advocates crypto exchange require, or is it private and LPP members are automatically uh able to use it? No, um there's gonna be basically a passport and your foundation, your tax ID number. That's it. Um next question using the address of my wife's office for a foundation. That's perfect. That's perfect. You can use any address you want. Collateral Finance Corporation when setting up an account with them for a foundation, would I put it as a trust or a corporate account? Personally, I'd put it as um a private membership association, a church. Um they if there is any issue whatsoever, there's a letter that we have for people that have issues where they're setting up an account, there's bias, they can't not include an unincorporated private church. Um, it would be biased under Article One. So um there's ways that you can push back. Uh it is a form of a trust. You can put private trust, um, but setting up an account, you don't need to basically have the type of entity perfected. Um, because no matter what, the entity is going to receive a uh a W9, and you're not gonna have to file a return on that. Is there an issue with using the address of my no, I already addressed that. Yeah, I said twice. Come on, John. Um, hunting licenses. How do you expect suggest I apply as a state citizen? Are you hunting on private property or public lands? Is my first question. And I would not apply for a hunting license if on private property. Um, remember something. If you're shooting a tagged deer, it belongs to them, and they already know where that deer is. So you need to figure out how to deal with the GPS elements. So the games that these guys are playing and getting all these deers tagged, all these animals tagged prior to hunting season, is how they're gaining jurisdiction and making the license requirement real. Um, but if the animal has no tag and it's on private property, there is no necessity for a license. If it is tagged and it happens to be on your private land, um, there are things that I've seen Rangers um game enforcement come onto private land without jurisdiction and do uh citations for um, you know, basically code violations, this, that, and the other. And I, you know, you can take that on. I wouldn't take it on personally. Um get your uh and the only reason why I'm saying that is you don't want a day in court when these people have these animals tagged, it literally belongs to them. I know that we feel differently, but they've marked it, they've tagged it, it's theirs, you're shooting it. Now it's it's it's another story. Um now you're asking a very simple question. I went on over and above. Uh when you apply as a state citizen, you're what I tell people to do on every single application is make sure your reservation of rights is underneath your signature and you're putting the word by in front of your name, showing that you're not uh that person you're operating as the agent for the all caps name on the application. That's how you apply. Just remember if it's tagged, it belongs to them. I know people feel differently, but that's the game that they play. And uh, if you're tagged, you belong to them too. And you all are tagged if you're a U.S. citizen. And they're tagging everybody, they're trying to tag everybody with these little chips, these nanotechnologies. And this is why we're gonna work on systems that are going to allow for, by the way, gold, colloquial gold is killing the nanotech. Look into that. Collodial gold is killing the nanotech in the body. Um, we're gonna, if that's a true statement, and I think it is a true statement. I don't have any personal tests that I've done that I have looked under a microscope to determine if that's a true statement. But if it is a true statement, I'm definitely gonna be supporting different elements of getting the nanotech out of our bodies, which is the way that they are trying to control us and register us and and change our DNA. Literally, that's what they're trying to do. If we ask vendors to send mail to name and name care of our foundation, and if they do this, and it's still not getting is it is this still not getting personal mail? Um so there's there's an element I know you're saying in care of the foundation, but just get your names off of the envelopes as much as possible. And this is the hardest part about the living in the private, is to train our vendors to um send mail to a foundation in care of the foundation alone, but get your name off of it as much as possible, especially government entities like SSA or treasurers. And again, what I always tell people is just open up the mail, take a picture, close it, return it to sender, no such person exists. Okay? They're gonna call you. You're gonna tell them, hey, look, I told you send it in care of the foundation only. And uh they're gonna ask any questions. Why, why can't you receive? And it's none of your business. Just send it to care of the foundation name if you want me to receive anything, or just email me. That handles that. Would you please slowly explain how correctly sign a check made out to the BC being deposited to a foundation bank account? Sure. Um absolutely. So you're gonna turn the check over at the top. You're gonna fully execute a signature on it, which is gonna be the endorsement for the BC. Underneath it, you're gonna write pay to the order of um the foundation name. And then underneath it, you're gonna use your stamp for the foundation, deposit for lawful money only for credit on account. That gives the account number and then the foundation name. So you've done a dual endorsement. The endorsement at the top, your signature, the endorsement at the bottom is advocates SSM. So endorsement on the top, then pay to the order of transfer, and then the deposit and endorsement on the bottom. Okay. If someone is doing work through the foundation for a United States Corp, is the W9, the 1099, the only form they can use if they're still a U.S. citizen or is there other ways? So there's a lot um of especially for security clearance kind of stuff. And where people screw up is they say, I'm a national, and then there's this investigation that opens up and you you'll you'll end up losing your security clearance. Excuse me. So that's a really unique, in-depth conversation. I'm gonna touch on a few quick key points. Don't play the sovereign citizen game on a security clearance. If you're just worried about whether or not you have a job and you're an employee um for the United States and you're trying to be a state citizen, if it were me, I would just file a W4T or modified W4 and show as exempt. Now, what the IRS is doing as of recent is they're trying to force a position of making a company withhold, um, which a company has no lawful right to withhold or do a guaranteed hold of taxes when you are exempt. You're you're exempt as a state citizen, you're exempt. Now, the differences um are many in that you're you're now entertaining a conversation while you're exempt with HR. Um, this is why I always tell people why don't you become a contractor for that company and have everything done through your foundation and not have to worry about that. And that's what a 90% of the people do. Um, there are some times where you're not going to want to deal with all the questioning, all the rigmarole. And some people still will elect who have the registered organization, the BC, pay their tax so they don't lose that quote unquote job because HR doesn't understand state citizenship. But if and and when you fill, you know, and you go after a WABEN, um, you're saying under IRS code that you're a non-resident alien, which is not a U.S. citizen. Um, it can be a state citizen, but it's not a U.S. citizen. So there's that issue where, but there's a lot of people that are non-resident aliens under IRS code. So it depends on your job, depends on, you know, it's not you're not going to be doing this with the FBI, you're not going to be doing this with special clearances to the president through the Homeland Security and different things like that. You're only going to be doing this if you're a mid to low-level employee with the United States and you'll be able to do a WABN or a tax exempt W4T or W4 modified. What I mean by W4 modified, um, reach out to our back office and we'll explain that to you. Would you do a brief overview of the key elements of IBO meeting last Thursday, or is a recorded video that we may go watch? Yeah, they um this is for ACN, and the reason why we we wanted to help people uh as of about a year and a half ago start working through ACN to get their bills reduced, to get um the health coverage versus health insurance. We have a lot of people really excited about the health coverage, private, 30 to 50 percent of the cost of health insurance. They love it. Well, uh ACN is coming out with FinTech, um, which is basically online technologies to be able to do online banking, online loans, um, different things like that. And it's gonna come out second or third quarter this year. And so I thought it was already out. I thought that's what the meeting was about. That's why I wanted to get everybody involved. I was told that's what it was about. I was wrong. Um, second, third quarter. Uh, you're gonna be able to open up a bank account, different things. I talked to the owner of the company, ACM myself, um, backstage in Texas for about 15 minutes, and he told me it's gonna be no socials. Um, they're probably gonna ask, but we'll see. Bottom line is we'll be able to open up foundations, different things like that. I asked those specific questions. He said, absolutely. So we'll see. But it's the ability to do transactions and have other people open up bank accounts. And remember, ACN is is a direct marketing company, so you'll be able to help your family, your friends, your people in the private to have private banking where anytime they no matter what, look, either the banks are gonna get paid or you're gonna get paid, you know. Um, but ACN has made this opportunity for us to make money on the bank fees and the swipe fees of banking. And so that's the the net of it. And so that's really the future. And I see a lot of people, uh, when they're losing their jobs to AI over the next several years, there's gonna be this opportunity, especially when everybody's trying to get their bills reduced. They're gonna be looking at the billion-dollar organization like ACN to try to figure out ways to reduce all their bills. And um especially health coverage. Health coverage is going through the roof right now. And I think I really need to speak more on this and get back into this uh where people understand how important it is to have private health coverage uh where you're not under a health insurance plan. Health insurance plan is gonna mandate you be injected. Health insurance plan is gonna mandate if you go to a hospital, you get injected while you're under. They're already doing that right now in many cases in many states, and they're trying to test and push against the American people to find out how volatile. Well, they're gonna make it contractually under the health insurance coverage um for pharmaceuticals, pharmaceuticals to be able to do that. That's why I was so attracted to ACN with Impact Health. We can do an alternative health care um that operates exactly like real insurance at about 30 to 50 percent average savings, whatever you're spending right now, 1,000 a month, it's gonna be 300 to 500 a month for your entire family, whatever it is. Super important for people to get their minds wrapped around. It's gonna be the same on banking, same on all these things. So when AI starts taking all these jobs and people are uh going through a massive crisis with a depreciating market, whenever that's gonna take place, whenever this bubble bursts, whatever, um, I'm telling you, ACNs can be poised uh to take on millions of IBOs um to help people reduce their bills across the board. Banking, health, uh your your credit cards, you know, um those financial things are going to be made available. Uh hopefully his advocates will be uh out there with their own exchange by that time. And uh been working on something privately for a long time. I'm keeping it very private for a lot of reasons. Um, however, we are introducing in the next couple weeks a new exchange. Again, um it is a big one, uh, but they were we're taking a project on with a high-level account executive rep so that we can get our foundations approved um for exchanges in the private through an institution in Australia, a big, big institution, um, without the fees of Caleb and Brown. Much, much better. So we're learning, we're growing all those things. Um, but that's the net of it, John. Uh, the crypto training summit, Steve's information. Um guys, if uh this is not something I normally do, but um normally it's done in the private. If anybody is needing to talk to somebody to load up on crypto, to help them with their storage solutions, to help them get an exchange account. I'm gonna post it right here uh for crypto questions. He is not a free person, but he is by far the most ethical, cool cat I have met. He is a preferred vendor. I'm putting it both in the chat on the Zoom and the chat on YouTube. Call him. He is the bomb schnittles. I like I love I like him a lot. I don't love him. Never met him in person. It's good people. He's helped hundreds of our members uh with crypto, and he's done it in an ethical format. Are you gonna make a book on how state citizens should conduct themselves in court properly so we can learn the do's and don'ts? Yeah, I can I don't think it'll be a book. I think it'll be a you know, a little article. Um, there's a lot of information on that. Um the the the element of court procedure, unfortunately, there's two sides to that coin. There is there's the fact that you're dealing with the black robes who are there for one purpose to traverse you into the jurisdiction of their court. Um and if you're not listening, you're not attentive, um, or even if you've done everything right, I've seen court after court uh sneak things, do things after the fact, do things outside of the record, illegally to traverse people into losing their home, losing their rights, losing their freedoms. So there's all kinds of things to consider when it comes to court, not just behavior inside of the court. But yeah, and it's a big deal, and it's and there's elements of trust law in court and dealing with judges, and I've seen judges go crazy when you assign them to be the trustee of the case. I've seen them go nuts. Um, that's a whole nother conversation. All right. Um in early 2024, I filed a revocation of election with the IRS and therefore do not file taxes for 2425. Uh, they occasionally sent me notices saying we haven't heard from you, you must file, um, to which I respond with proof that they have already heard from me, including certified mail green cards with signatures and additional copies of my revocation of election based on their most recent letter. I should have heard from them by mid November, but I haven't heard a peep. There's a bit more in this, but that is the gist. I have not yet updated my passport. To a state citizen, that's critical, Gary. Um, so my question is what is your suggested course of action? Does it make sense to settle up on the taxes owed for 24? I would never pay them a dime of taxes. You can settle up by giving them permission to hit the account by filling out a 1040 for the portion of 2024 that you'd be required to. Um but I would reach out and and do a consult and just the reality you once you become a state citizen, the only thing you're responsible for is what you did not file for the times to which you received a 1099 or a W-2. And so if it were me, I'd simply file a return for those time periods that you were not a state citizen with no revocation of election filed. And then file the 1040, which is what gives them permission to set off the debt, generally making them happy. And then write a notice on top of the 1040 with the proof that you filed the revocation in this time period, and therefore there will be no future filing from that time period on and close the account, kind of a thing. The 1040 is like a check. You're giving them permission to set off. IRS documents say you need to make sure that uh this time forward you do not sign a W4 or W9 and that you are not receiving in the all caps name, registered organization a W2 or 1099 or K1 from any corporation. You said it's possible to remain a W 2 employee. Could you explain the wording on the IRS docs? Yeah. Um, we have to do a full disclosure with people um to just cover basis. Most people don't have uh an understanding of how to on a go forward basis contract. So we always tell people if you're gonna continue to operate on a W-2, um, work with us on structuring up how to fill out these documents or what have you, so that you are not contracting with them but giving them what they need to settle the account through the BC, through the uh Federal Reserve window. The bottom line is everybody's a little different, so we have to be very specific on our wording one way to people. And people will always come back and say, Well, I want to continue to be an employee, or I want to continue to work with or contract with. And I already dealt with how to make that happen earlier on this, like what you would fill out if you were truly a state citizen, you'd either be exempt on a W4T, you'd be a modified W2, or you'd be a W A B E N if you wanted to use the name. If you want to use a foundation, you'd use a W9. Uh, we provide you the W9, and you get paid through the foundation. Isn't the deer trespassing? Um, technically, yeah, I guess. Um, but did you invite him on your property by having leaves and trees and no fencing? I don't know. Yeah, I don't think he knows he's trespassing. Uh it's left its owner's property outside of its country. That's a good question. If if your property is registered in the county recorder's office and it's a legal description in the name of your name or a corporation's name, then that piece of property is still owned by the county, wouldn't you agree? So, therefore, it's not left its country to go into a sovereign nations country, it's gone into its own country, just another region of its country, and it's tagged as its own by the United States. So just think about it that way. But good question. Thank you, John. Made me laugh. Um, would you consider investing in a partnership for lab equipment for blood work, analytics, DNA, nanotech, etc.? I'd consider anything to help people. Do you need to have our foundation and passport completed before we submit a W4? I would have the passport and the IRS docs completed before you do any revised W uh W4. Pay to the order of XXX. Okay, first endorse it with the full living man signature, because the checks made out to the BC, right? Underneath the endorsement, pay to the order of XXX Foundation. Deposit for lawful money for credit on account XXX. Should have a double signature for the double endorsement. No. Signature on the top and the endorsement on the bottom is the name of the foundation. Okay. That is all that is required. I'm trying to make it clear for you. The name on the bottom is that because SSM is the endorsement. So signature, endorsement on the top, pay to the order of XYZ Foundation, deposit for lawful money only for credit on account number, da da da. Foundation name. Or will non-assumption suffice for both signatures? No, you don't want to do that. You want to do the living man signature on the top. You're not contracting them to do anything to sign that check. So just sign it. Whatever matches the endorsement on the account. So the best method for a U.S. citizen to do work for United States Corp. through a foundation is the W9 1099, and they won't have to file taxes for their BC as the entity on file, is the foundation, correct? So you're contracting with them as a third-party contractor under the foundation name, and you're giving them a W9, and the contract changes. Generally, you actually get paid more, and you don't have to file a return on the foundation, correct? Um, I've heard that it's a good idea to send a letter to your congressman, senator, IRS with a series of questions to build a record of your good faith efforts to get educated on answers and act accordingly, which serves as evidence to protect you from allegation or willful failure to file seems like another layer of Kevlar thoughts. There's all kinds of people doing all kinds of things out there. I would take um whatever you feel uh God's putting on your heart to develop, you know, but a revocation of election whereby you are not just doing one letter, like an 11-page revocation of election, you're gonna do a notice of fault, the opportunity to decure certificate of default. That is a court of record, that is a new contract with the IRS because they had an obligation and opportunity to defend their position that your taxes are absolute, and they didn't. So you're creating a court of record, which is why we do the administrative process, and also why we do the removal of signature, and also why we do the notice of status. They can all be done on one document, but we used a total of nine documents, three different letters to create three different contracts with the IRS alone. Administrative process defaulted as an agreement with the IRS. We have three of them on every single client of his advocates. So adding something is not necessarily a problem unless you're saying I'm an American national, I do not have to pay taxes and those things where you are not just run whatever you're gonna send to them by us, please. So the best way to keep U.S. property, including citizens and wildlife, out is just electric fence around the property. I don't know. Come on, John. I don't know. Just get a turret with a gun. Hey, for all the people that weren't on in the beginning, gold is forty-six hundred dollars today. 4600 and silver went to 86 bucks. So if you don't know what that means, that means the dollar is collapsing fast. So for all of you people that have retirement accounts, annuities, 401ks, cash and bank accounts, pull it out, put it in gold, silver, ISO, ISO 2002 compliant crypto. Get it on a hard cold storage, hard wallet. Um, guns, ammo, food, debt. Don't worry about debt right now. Gold, silver, guns, ammo, food, crypto, things to which are worth a lot of money when you're flipping economies. And right now we're flipping economies and we're watching the world stage play out. This is an awesome show. I can't believe we're front row for the show. Just make sure you get your money out of your retirement accounts. People that listened to me say this, and I've been saying this for seven, eight years, are very, very, very happy with me. I've had people that bought gold when it was sixteen, seventeen hundred dollars an ounce, $4,500, $4,600 today. That means I can take a coin and go cash it in for $4,600 today. It's a valuable thing. So where you're taking a hit and you can't believe you're giving up 20% to the IRS right now because you're taking a hit on cashing out early. I promise you, you will wait make way more money than 20% on gold, silver, and crypto today. Do it now. You will lose if you don't, guys. Um, what's holding back? They're buying it off books, they're buying everything off books, um, all these exchanges. There's nothing forcing the whole back of XRP um or ISO tokens, uh, in my opinion. Everything is being bought off books, given to um these uh ETFs, and um, we're watching the ETF volume just grow and grow. We really haven't even turned on the engines yet for XRP. I thought XRP would be higher by now. I was wrong. Um, I'm excited about the trading volume of what's going to be taking place, but guess what? Uh, here's another biggie. Bank New York Mellon just signed with Ripple. That's $60 trillion held under assets of other banks. Two Bank New York Mellon, if you know them, they're the largest custody holder for other banks, meaning they hold $2 trillion in their own clients' funds and $58 trillion in other banks' funds. Um, these things are going to come to fruition. All you need to realize, um, Mark, is when you're looking at the volume of uh, let's say XRP, for example, and you look at um the uh like what it's trading at. Um, let me go to that board. Hold on. And you go down to the market cap and you look at the price, like how it's all-time high of a price was $303.66. Um, and you look at the uh total supply versus circulating supply, making the market cap of $125 billion today, that matches the current pricing of $2.05. And you look at what the market capitalization was when it was up to $3.66, it was up to about $225 billion just for that day. And then it came back down pretty quick. The point meaning is market cap is money being moved through these exchanges on a global basis, which means that as the market cap and more XRP is used to move money around, making these banks liquid, making these exchanges liquid, making uh the moving of money more transparent, easier, you're gonna watch the market cap grow through the roof. So all we need to do is hope and pray that the market capitalization is going to change when people start using XRP on a daily basis on an institutional level, which is an absolute and this is why it's it's you know, our timing is is we're all preempting this and hoping for the best, but the reality is this is our year, no matter what. And and I've got bets on it just like everybody else. Um one quick comment. Um I gotta keep my mouth shut about that. Anyway, I was gonna talk about Claver, Jake Claver. Don't don't invest over there right now, guys. Um, I I've said it privately to the VIP members. I went I went out and met him, and um there's a lot of things going on right now. There's lawsuits flying, there's a lot of labeling flying. Let's watch how it plays out, let's play it safe for our group. If you are gonna be doing institutional investing, uh wait, wait, the reason is you're gonna you're gonna have to put your XRP or your ISO coin onto their institution. And I have a feeling they're gonna make it illegal to uh to own certain cryptos, and this is why we want to keep our custody on something that's been created and donated and given over to a foundation, because the illegal nature of you holding a hard wallet that's owned by a foundation is not illegal. So you'll be able to keep your custody of your XRP, then you're gonna have to create an account on that institutional uh whatever we're gonna be, you know, earning whatever on for our XRP, for our XLM, for our XDC, whatever. Um, at that time, uh the account's gonna have to be in the foundation name. You're gonna get your your payments, your this, that, your everything that you would before. But just until we can see past that moment, if you don't have a lot, keep it on a hardwall and keep it to yourself. Uh, until the declaration of, hey, we're gonna hold all XRP because XRP is gonna, without a doubt, it's gonna be through the roof. Um starting this year and going up and up and up. And the market cap is is an absolute guarantee of and proof that the more that it's used and utilized, the more value it brings. So whether it's 10 bucks to get it to 10 bucks, you're talking about a uh a four to five hundred billion dollar market cap. That's not a lot. Uh imagine several trillion a day going through XRP. You're you're talking about a $30 to $50 uh XRP, $100 XRP, whatever. And I'm not even talking about market multiple multipliers and those things that a lot of gurus out there are telling you what it what it means and how it works. But we are in a really good spot. Hold tight, keep it on your hard wallet, do not let it off a hard wallet onto an institution. If you do, make sure it's under foundation's name. And uh, I'll see you tomorrow morning um for the VIP, our inspirational meeting. I look forward to these times with you guys, 9 a.m. Pacific. God bless you guys. I'm tired of talking. I've been talking for 15 minutes. Um, do me a favor, Hawkeye uh falicia. Send uh Kelby at his advocates.org your questions. I'll get them addressed there. God bless, guys. Have a great day, and we will see you next Monday, 4 p.m. Pacific. Enjoy.